Coaches Sound Off on the Problems with Youth Sports
Parents' expectations, safety, and too many trophies are the common themes.
This week we’ll begin to explore some of the responses from a questionnaire that I sent out to many youth sport’s coaches in our listening area. (It’s still not too late to participate — say the word and I’ll zip a copy your way.)
Although most of these coaches gave me permission to use their names, I’m not
quite sure that doing so adds any value to the discussion. I’ve listed their primary sport(s) before their comments.
So here we go … please feel free to comment below and hopefully we’ll begin
a healthy dialogue and maybe, just maybe, we can all come away with some
valuable information.
What do you see as being the issue that needs the most attention in youth sports
today?
Coach A. (Lacrosse): “The biggest issue in youth sports today is the parents. We
are all way too caught up in wins and losses. Appreciate all athletes for what
they bring to the game. Yes, your own child is important, but he is only one part of the team.”
Coach B. (Football and Baseball): “The early specialization that is now part of
youth sports. Kids that play travel soccer have to play in the fall, winter, and
spring to stay on a team. Baseball is now a two season sport. What happened to
sport seasons? I'm sure you remember in high school some kids that played
football, basketball, and baseball.”
Coach C. (Football and Lacrosse): “Safety. But safety starts with education. Teaching coaches the right way to instruct their players. Lacrosse does a great job of teaching its coaches.”
Coach D. (Football, Lacrosse, and Basketball): “I believe the issue is giving
everyone a reward at the end of the season. I believe trophies and rewards should be earned. Most kids like to get trophies because they expect it. I
remember playing pee-wee football for five years before I won a trophy for second place. It sucked not getting a trophy, but I knew we didn't deserve one. So when I did get that second place trophy, holy cow, was it cool. I think today's players would feel the same way. My son looks at all of his trophies and tells me they don't mean anything because everyone gets one, so who cares. He says he would rather just be patted on the back for trying hard when you don't win and save the trophy for when it finally happens. I think giving trophies to everyone teaches kids that everyone wins regardless of the outcome (and life doesn't work that way).”
Coach E. (Football, Lacrosse, and Basketball): “In my opinion the biggest issue
that I see in youth sports is safety and the mentality of winning at all costs and at anyone's expense.”
Coach F. (Football and Baseball): “Parents' expectations. Parents seem to do
what THEY want or create unreasonable expectations of their child. Live in the
moment and enjoy your child's love for the game. Don't imagine your child as a
professional athlete, college player, or high school player. Just enjoy them for
what level they are playing at now. Too many parents are trying to live
vicariously through their children.”
Local Sports Writer (not me): “Keeping parents from ruining them.”
Coach G. (Football and Baseball): “Sportsmanship. I see a lot of coaches, players, and parents trash-talking.”
Coach H. (Football): “Probably setting up the teams. In most leagues that play
within their own town, inevitably there are a few powerhouse teams and a few
teams that don’t have a competitive chance. This is mostly due to either coaches fixing their teams or other coaches who don’t know the players as well. Not sure of the solution but it happens in football, basketball, and and is ultimately unfair for those players who get stuck on the non-competitive teams.”
Coach I. (Hockey): “Parents need to step back and let their children play and
coaches coach. Boards/Directors of leagues need to have real policies that are
enforced consistently with all players/parents/coaches.”
Coach J. (Baseball): “We need more volunteer coaches. There are not parents willing to step forward. Ideally, we would have more parents willing to step forward and be able to provide the training necessary to make them feel comfortable. However, it sometimes feels like parents would prefer not to coach
their kids and watch from the sideline. If this continues, we need to be to train high school and college kids or other adult volunteers to fill in the gaps.”
Coach K. (Football): “Parent Expectations, Involvement & Understanding. You
can have parent-coach meetings, constantly email and keep people informed,
and have parents sign a letter of understanding at sign-up but no matter what,
many parents are understandably blind to the athletic ability of their own child.
Seventy-five percent of parents drop their children off and pick them up when practice is over, and really have no idea what goes on with the team, the league and their child. They will typically be the first to complain but the last to volunteer assist with other responsibilities like concession, fundraisers, etc.”
Coach L. (Baseball): “The hardest thing to balance is the fairness and the
competitive spirit. I struggle with that the most. I don’t want to lose that sense of achievement within the confines of fair play. I know both can be achieved but we have yet to find the right recipe (in our league). To find that balance is the goal.”
Coach M. (Soccer): “Segregating young kids by ability at way too early an age.
The outcome of segregation is to create a small group of higher performing kids,
and segregating the rest. Once physical and mental development is more normalized (in the 12/13 and up age groups — according to most experts I’ve
reference). I’m OK with segregation by physical ability.”
Coach N.: “As a new coach, the issue I find to be the greatest challenge to both
coaches and parents is communication between the league and parents leading
up to the season and then oftentimes with coaches and parents during the
season. It is important that everyone understand what each level/teams objective and approach to the season will be and then any modifications that are needed during the season. Two major points I believe are important relate to a 24-hour cooling off period before approaching the coach, unless the issue involves the health of a player, in order to provide time for both the coach, player and parent to decompress and second that parents need to be realistic about the ability of their child and the guidelines the coaches are operating under. In many
instances, the league has a mandate for how a team will be coached.”
Lin Chojnicki
7:26 am on Friday, January 6, 2012
Not surprising how often "parents" are mentioned by coaches as being "the" issue. Perhaps the practice of "silent Sundays" @ soccer games (where fans aren't allowed to say anything during a youth soccer game) should be instituted at more youth athletic events?
When everyone is given a trophy regardless of how they do, a trophy ends up having no meaning or value. No player or team is truly special when everyone is rewarded in the same manner. Unfortunately the "real world" isn't like this.
tom jones
8:49 am on Friday, January 6, 2012
How about coaches being the issue. I have been active in voluntering in youth sports. I think sometime that the coaches are livng thru there sons or daughters lives. I don't like silent Sunday's but I do understand where your coming. Positive re enforcement during the game, I don't see anything wrong with that. I think a trophy should be earned.
Ron Goralski
11:32 am on Monday, January 9, 2012
Having never been a "Soccer Dad", I missed out on these "Silent Sundays". What happened to a parent if they decided not to be so silent? We did have a cowbell show up on the sidelines of some of our football games. I'm thinking air horns will be next.
Ron Goralski
11:35 am on Monday, January 9, 2012
@ Tom... I've been laying it on the coaches quite a bit lately so I thought it was only fair to give them a chance to soundoff. This is only the first question of 10!
Lisa
8:22 am on Friday, January 6, 2012
As a parent I don't see the need for trophies every season. My daughter has trophies and ribbon in her room that don't mean anything. Honest praise from her coach means a lot more.
Ron Goralski
11:36 am on Monday, January 9, 2012
Umm... OK I'm guilty of promoting this in the past (handing them out). You guys are quickly changing my mind though.
John Hogan
8:44 am on Friday, January 6, 2012
You need to coach the parents as well as the kids. Talk to them at the first practice and let them know what's going to happen, what the goals are and what's expected of them. Make sure you have a lot of heads nodding so you're comfortable that they have gotten the message. Update the parents on their childs progress and perhaps give them pointers on how they can help their child improve. Yes coach the kids and also the parents.
tom jones
8:52 am on Friday, January 6, 2012
John, I agree with you about keeping the parent informed of the childs progress. There have been times where I have never met the parents of my player. Because either the just drop of there kids at practice opr never show up a a game. Sometimes we are just baby sitters at times
Ron Goralski
11:38 am on Monday, January 9, 2012
I agree John. Communication - communication - communication...
Ron Goralski
11:39 am on Monday, January 9, 2012
@ Tom... Wow that's pretty sad.
Sas
9:09 am on Friday, January 6, 2012
Of course kids are given trophies at every touch of a ball. They are "awarded" for graduating preschool, Kindergarten, Middle School, High School. One of the most ridiculously lavish parties I have ever seen was for a kid who received his belt in Karate. WE were EXPECTED to do our best with no accolades. If you didn't win the championship, you received NO trophy, no ribbon, just a pat on the back or a ruffling of the hair and told "we'll get 'em next year". PARENTS not kids expect the trophies.
Anyhow, Lin, I used to love the Silent Sundays. Some parents would have to go to their cars to scream so as not to get tossed from the sidelines.
To the Dad I heard at last years Labor Day Soccer Shootout who told his daughter that she sucked as a soccer player and he was ashamed of her.......YOU SUCK!
There are a lot of great coaches comments.
Ron Goralski
11:45 am on Monday, January 9, 2012
Sas, I often patrolled the sidelines during games and told parents when I thought their comments were not appropriate. Holy cow! Talk about the proverbial daggers… my Diet Coke POURED out through the holes!
Ronni Newton
9:42 am on Friday, January 6, 2012
I really appreciate Coach B's comment about early specialization. My daughter fought the battle of playing other sports – which she also enjoyed – while doing club gymnastics at a very high level, until she got to high school and decided to continue as a 3-sport athlete, but only with her high school teams during their seasons. My son is in 8th grade, and plays both soccer and baseball all year round with premier and travel teams, as well as rec basketball. He loves to play all of these sports, and playing multiple sports makes him a better all around athlete. But, we always dread the conflicts with coaches who think their sport has to be a priority. I hope none of his coaches are reading this!
Ron Goralski
11:51 am on Monday, January 9, 2012
Ronni, I believe this to be one of the biggest issues facing us now in youth sports. Sometimes these kids burn out on their “specialty” sport before high school. I’ve even seen kids pass up playing in college because the buildup was so intense along the way that they just stopped having fun.
And don't worry - I don't think too many people are reading :)
Cindy Nye
9:47 am on Friday, January 6, 2012
To the comment about "segregating" kids too early based on ability, I would add a similar concern: segregating kids too early by gender. Having been involved for many years in youth soccer as both a parent and a coach in Michigan, where athletes play on co-ed teams through elementary school and sometimes beyond, I was surprised to discover how early our soccer players are divided into boys' and girls' teams here. Many of the better players on my Kindergarten and 1st grade teams were girls, and it was good for boys AND girls to have that experience together. I remember my son being justifiably upset when he could no longer be on the same team with any of those girls because co-ed teams stop at U-8, and I believe such early segregation does a disservice to both genders.
Ron Goralski
12:00 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
That's interesting. When I played Little League Baseball in the 70's there were always girls on our teams. We didn't have girl's softball in my town. Our youth football league allows girls to play with the boys. There have been a handful over the years and a few played right up until high school and were just as tough as the boys (which does NOT surprise me at all).
Marty Salvatore
10:25 am on Friday, January 6, 2012
Things I learned from playing rec sports while growing up:
-Parents lose their minds when adolescents play with any type of ball in an organized manner.
-It is important to be related to the coach OR to be friends with someone related to the coach
-Competition is more important than learning the importance of physical fitness
-It is acceptable for grown ups to yell at children; it builds character
-You only get to eat pizza if you WIN the game
-Even the worst players sometimes get the winning hit/goal/basket
Sorry if this seems overly negative, but I'm just drawing on my own experiences here. I played multiple sports my entire life- through high school. I've had my share of both good AND bad coaches. It just seems like, again from MY experience, rec sports bring out the worst in people.
Steven Wayne
1:40 pm on Friday, January 6, 2012
Things I learned from your post:
- You were one of the worst players on your respective team (see points 2 and 5 above)
- You did not play high school sports. (It only gets worse)
- Maybe you should be less negative and more proactive. Perhaps coach a group of young individuals so the same "sad" experiences that ruined your life don't happen to them... Cry baby...
Marty Salvatore
4:41 pm on Friday, January 6, 2012
I actually did play sports throughout high school. Football, basketball, baseball, wrestling, and soccer. I wasn't the best player on any of the teams, but I certainly wasn't the worst. I never cried or said the experiences ruined my life. I actually had some really great coaches who taught me a lot. All I meant to say is that I saw a lot of ugly, questionable behavior durring my time in rec sports. I'm pretty sure everyone has. Including some of the coaches quoted in this article. Chill out.
Karen Cianci
3:07 pm on Sunday, January 8, 2012
Nice post Brian. Very astute observations. You're a smart kid and should be very successful in life so long as you totally believe your own words. You speak the truth.
Karen Cianci
3:09 pm on Sunday, January 8, 2012
I agree with Steven Wayne that you SHOULD Coach sports. Your intelligence and insight indicates you would be a great Coach and sorely needed today. Best of luck to you.
Ron Goralski
10:20 am on Monday, January 9, 2012
@Steven... I'm pretty sure we can do without the name calling here.
Ron Goralski
12:01 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Brian, your comments are echoed by many.
nancy
10:37 am on Friday, January 6, 2012
I agree with the coach who said the trophies don't mean anything. They don't. Just ask any kid. I also agree that some coaches are the problem also. Boy do I have some good stories about that including one not being allowed to coach again.. On the other hand, I know some great coaches also. Either way, I appreciate that they stepped up to the plate and volunteered to coach our kids.
Ron Goralski
12:05 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Yup... good and bad coaches... it's the never-ending story that begs for our attention.
Pablo
10:40 am on Friday, January 6, 2012
RE: Specialization
Agree wholeheartedly with this criticism. First, if you look at the biographies of most professional atheletes and/or D-1 athletes you will find that the overwhelming majority excelled at more than one sport. In fact, if you talk to college coaches that is a criteria they use when deciding, which athlest to pursue. Second, very few if any kids in town will rise to play at the professional level. How many NFL, NBA, MLB, or NHL players came from West Hartford (pick any town) in the last 10 years. "MAYBE" there is one future big-leaguer in town. This comment is for the parents to consider when encouraging kids to participate in more then one sport. I wouldn't presume to throw any cold water on a kid's dream. That is really the point. Let the kids play the sport that is in season and let them dream. Let the base hit to right field at Wolcott bring as much joy as it would at Fenway. Let the 2-pointer at Sedgwick count as much as the 2-pointer at Gampel. Encourage the goal or touchdown to bring satisfaction and love to the child. Let them dream, but put your (me too) dreams in the closet.
Ron Goralski
12:11 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Again, I think this is going to be a huge topic of discussion. I'm fine if it is what that child chooses to do. What I am against are the leagues that are locking kids into the sport year round if they want to play on certain travel teams. There's so much more to it though. Town A feels that it needs to do it to keep up with Town B and so forth.
I'd like to hear the opinions of parents that have children playing under these circumstances.
Mark Holowesko
12:18 pm on Friday, January 6, 2012
For any sports, the kids must enjoy the event. All players must feel important for the team. Young players have limitations as well has their team. Working up to their potential, the players will be succesful in many ways along with the team. Few young players will ever make it to the top levels. To succeed at their level and work to raise their level of play to the next step is a lifetime learning process. While coaching youth travel soccer for many years, the post game comments and rewards greatly overshadowed all the end of the season participation trophies. After each match, win or lose, the team captions picked a player or two to receive a team pin for their effort in that game. Then as coach, I picked a player or two. To recieve a pin was important to all the players. A team pennant was handed out to the player as he/she joined the team. Every earned pin was attached the the pennant. Coach and peer recognition was very important to the players. By the end of season, no matter the final record, individual skill level improved, the enjoyment of the game increased and all players earned pins showing their extra effort and the team was a success. Then we all win.
Ron Goralski
12:19 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
I agree that kids must enjoy the event. To me that is number one at this level (pre-HS). I'm a little torn on the pins and stickers on helmets (in football). Again you have to trust that the coaches are handing them out for the right reason and somehow at the end of the season the star player is not covered from head to toe while the lessor skilled kid has only two or three. Done correctly, I guess I can see it as a motivating tactic.
Mark, have you ever seen a case as I've described - where this system didn't work because of the coaches?
Chris Dehnel
12:58 pm on Friday, January 6, 2012
I was fortunate enough to play youth basketball at a very high level. One thing my coaches always stressed was that it was a team from the starting five right down to the bench players who saw little game action. Win or lose, we entered and exited the court as a team and everyone was recognized as a contributor in practice the next day. The parents fell right in line with that. Unfortunately, that is not the case in every program.
Ron Goralski
12:33 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
I'm digging everything you say... but then I see "youth basketball" and "bench players who saw little game action" and you kind of lose me. I'm assuming by "youth" you are referring to pre-HS. My opinion is that the gap between the staters and the bench players needs to shrink when it comes to playing time. (I go on and on about it in a previous column... again just MY opinion.)
Chris, I'm curious if the bench players ever voiced that they thought they deserved more playing time.
As you mention - team unity is so important as well.
Lin Chojnicki
2:24 pm on Friday, January 6, 2012
Having played every organized sports available growing up (plus a ton of neighborhood "sandlot"), and doing some coaching, the most important "things" I recall from the experiences are summed up in two John Wooden quotes:
If you lost, but you played your best, then you didn't really lose."
“A player who makes a team great is more valuable than a great player."
Unfortunately many don't try to instill the Wooden basics.
Ron Goralski
12:35 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
I was a "sandlot" star! Those are two great quotes.
Lori Davis
8:53 am on Wednesday, January 11, 2012
Awsome quotes! There are so many life lessons that can be learned from sports. When you can pass the ball to a player that has a better chance to make a point, you are a team player. Parents put too much pressure on their kids to be the star of the team and not enough on the value on making the team better. The person that mentioned positive reinforcement, YAY!!!!! I have seen players skills deteriorate because a coach told them that they could not do something, eventually they really can't ! If we could all think about the effect we have on kids before we speak..... Now for some possitive reinforcenforcement, coaches sacrifice much of their personal time, that needs to be appreciated! I hope the great coaches my daughter has had don't think I was talking about them :)
Greg
5:34 pm on Friday, January 6, 2012
Silent sidelines started in many places as a way to quiet coaches down as well as parents. It is GREAT to see how well a team can perform when they are self directed.
A great coach at a middle school I taught at commented that he coached during practice and at the games his job was to be a cheer leader and let the student perform what they learned. Mistakes and weaknesses would be covered at the next practice.
That is the educational approach to coaching and sports. I always hopped all the coaching I did when my five kids were learning to drive would pay huge dividends when I was not in the car with them but rather on the sidelines watching. Kind of like coaching a sport.
Ron Goralski
12:37 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
I like it Greg. You have me in deep thought now.
Chris Dehnel
6:03 pm on Friday, January 6, 2012
One other thing. The 2-on-1 drills started in fifth grade, continued through middle school and high school and into college. So, logically, basketball is the answer as to why I can now handle toddler twins.
Michelle C
11:09 pm on Friday, January 6, 2012
I used to coach Pop Warner Cheerleading and my biggest complaint with Youth Leagues is the Parents. They think that it's a daycare. They get 2 hours free from practice and games. I'm not saying all parents just drop off and pick up but a lot do. I can't even tell you how many times I'm stuck waiting for a parent to arrive to pick up their child and say I'm sorry I lost track of time, or I was stuck in traffic or the best I was stuck in line at the grocery store... Really??? And most time it was between 20-30 minutes they were late! I used to say to myself trying to be respectful.. "Why weren't you here, cheering on your child, supporting your child?" Why is it me that has to say, "You did a great job Sally, or Jane" I'm not the parent. Then the best part, these parents are not there for their kids and yet they are the 1st to complain about the league. I find it so funny you have so much to complain about but yet your not there cheering and supporting your kids.
My daughter is 18 now. I went to every practice, every game and every competition from the age of 7 until now as she is a senior in high school. I can't imagine her being out on the field and her turning around not looking in the stands to see me. Because that's what these kids do. They look for their parents, they want their parents.
So before you complain about any sporting league, be there at every practice and every game. Get involved. You can have a voice, if you attend!
Ron Goralski
12:40 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
It all just blows my mind. And I've been there as well waiting for the late parent.
I echo your call to GET INVOLVED!
Sas
9:50 am on Saturday, January 7, 2012
Sports in general are sinking lower and lower. Adults are way out of control.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/wife-beaten-rangers-fan-appalled-bystanders-allowed-philadelphia-220834946.html
Ron Goralski
12:45 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Despicable. And unfortunately (for me), I've had to intervene and try to diffuse a few tense situations at youth sporting events. Ugh!
Ron Goralski
12:47 pm on Monday, January 9, 2012
Keep your comments coming. I love other view points.
Keith O'Reilly
10:33 am on Tuesday, January 10, 2012
Each of these coaches make a valid and excellent point. I especially agree with the "Everyone gets a trophy" argument. Rewards should be earned,not expected.
JC
5:51 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012
I asked my 13 yr old son which of his trophies meant the most to him (he has championship and participation trophies). He thought about it for a moment and his response was "None". I think kids are so bombarded with trophies that when they receive one that was truly deserved the importance has been diminished by the proliferation of participation trophies. Trophies are becoming on a par with after game snacks.
Ron, I was always disappointed that a certain youth football league never handed out championship trophies.
Farmington Little League hands out championship trophies. The year my son's team won he received a trophy from the league, and right after that the manager handed him a participation trophy. Unbelievable.